<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>LaDameDragon.com &#187; learning french as a second language</title>
	<atom:link href="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/tag/learning-french-as-a-second-language/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://ladamedragon.com/blog</link>
	<description>Ottawa, French language courses, translation</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:57:11 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	
		<item>
		<title>2011&#8230; And&#8230; The Wind kind of Shifted in Ottawa!&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/2011-and-the-wind-kind-of-shifted-in-ottawa</link>
		<comments>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/2011-and-the-wind-kind-of-shifted-in-ottawa#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lyne Des Roberts</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[languages]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language evaluation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language testing tools]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language training]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning a second language for work]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning french as a second language]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Public Service of Canada second language evaluation tests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tests and tribulations]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[virtual training]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ladamedragon.com/blog/?p=4036</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Four months went by and I did not write one single post on my blog!&#8230; I would have loved to&#8230; yet I was way too busy and I did not want to write about just anything for the only sake of writing something. Last year, especially starting around June, it seemed that no one could [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">F</span></strong>our months went by and I did not write one single post on my blog!&#8230; I would have loved to&#8230; yet I was way too busy and I did not want to write about just anything for the only sake of writing something.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">L</span></strong>ast year, especially starting around June, it seemed that no one could achieve a<strong> <span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong> at the <strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">TOP</span></strong> (Test of Oral Proficiency) in French. It was actually quite depressing for me because I knew that most of my trainees were strong enough to get this level. A couple of them even took the test up to three times with no other results than a mere <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>&#8230; To some extent, I had started to believe that there was a conspiracy in Ottawa, where the headquarters for SLE testing are located. Why only in Ottawa? Simply because people tested over the phone with examiners based in Montreal  &#8211; or in person with assessors from various Departments such as CRA, Health, etc. &#8211; were still getting their <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong> when they deserved it!&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>I </strong></span>admit that I was angry most of the time and, when I left for Jamaica in Mid-December, it was long due because I was totally drained&#8230; and, for a while, I  even thought of giving up and retiring!&#8230; Yet I felt that I could not let down people who really needed help so that they would have a chance at those stupid tests! This process is excruciating and they need all the support they can get in order to get through this ordeal. And&#8230; I thought of all these people who are not living in Ottawa and cannot find resources&#8230; they would have been left on their own&#8230; Finally I decided that I had still enough energy and courage to fight this absurd system. Therefore I rolled up my sleeves and dived into 2011 with the ferocity of a lioness!&#8230; Sometimes I truly believe that only someone like me is crazy enough to do this&#8230; well, I guess I am a true believer and I refuse to give up on people who need my support and expertise.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>T</strong></span>hen something happened&#8230; something unexpected&#8230; something I would call a miracle! Now, 50% of the candidates to the <strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">TOP</span></strong>  who go to Slater are tested over the phone with examiners from Montreal&#8230; of course, my students who were evaluated this way got their<strong><span style="color: #ff9900;"> C</span></strong> with no problems&#8230;  consequently, there was nothing to throw me off my chair&#8230; It is when my students tested face-to-face started to get their <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong> one after the other that I realized that the pattern had been finally broken!&#8230; Actually none of them who were seeking a <span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>C</strong></span> failed!&#8230; Not even a single one!!! They all passed!&#8230; I would say that, since the beginning of January, I had about 20 trainees who needed a <span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>C</strong></span> and all of them obtained it!&#8230; Incredible!!!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span id="more-4036"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">H</span></strong>ow did that happen?&#8230; Well&#8230; it is known that our government keeps statistics of everything&#8230; therefore, I suspect that the ones on the success of bilingualism within the PSC showed a high rate of failure&#8230; without mentioning that many positions require <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">CBC</span></strong>, <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">BBC</span></strong> and<strong><span style="color: #ff9900;"> CCC</span></strong>&#8230; if assessors fail most of the candidates, how can they staff?&#8230; In my opinion (and I might be wrong), the examiners have been<span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong> &#8220;demanded&#8221;</strong></em> </span>to be more realistic with their evaluation at level<strong><span style="color: #ff9900;"> C</span></strong>&#8230; in other words, to assess people according to the criterias of the level: highly functional in the second language&#8230; and not bilingual! <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">E</span></strong> is the level that people get when they are fluent!&#8230; Among my students who got their <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong>, I had several who were bilingual and should have obtained an exemption&#8230; But hey! Let&#8217;s not be too greedy here&#8230; it is already an exploit that they got a <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong>&#8230; Last year, I had a couple of them who were bilingual in my book and they only got a<strong><span style="color: #ff9900;"> B</span></strong>!&#8230; Apparently, the wind shifted at Slater and it is kind of a relief&#8230; it is a test to assess people&#8217;s abilities in their second language&#8230; not a trial where they feel as if they were tortured by some tormenters&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">O</span></strong>n a sad note though, our <strong><em><span style="color: #ff6600;">&#8220;urban legend&#8221;</span></em></strong> did not budge&#8230; this examiner is still giving <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> to the ones who are at the level <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong>&#8230; and giving an <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">A </span></strong>to the ones who are at the level<strong><span style="color: #ff9900;"> B</span></strong>&#8230; Two weeks ago, one of my students had the misfortune of being evaluated by this individual&#8230; she got out of there traumatized! Not only this jaded assessor is unfair but is also arrogant, cynical and sarcastic&#8230;  Who needs to sit down with such a jerk for 45 minutes when they are already under stress and pressure?&#8230; I have to say that I am tempted to reveal this person&#8217;s name, but I will not do it today&#8230; perhaps later&#8230; All I have to say for now is that no one should do this job more than two or three years, after that they tend to become bias and some of them are at risk of abusing the power they have&#8230; think of it for a second&#8230; individuals who fail to get the level they need at the <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">TOP</span></strong> are eliminated from hiring processes and sometimes demoted&#8230; I think there should be at least two assessors in the room, the way it is done during job interviews&#8230; otherwise these people&#8217;s fate rests in the hands of one single person!!! A responsibility I would not want because I think I would have a hard time to sleep at night&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>ut&#8230; overall, there has been some improvement and there is hope for the future in the SLE testing department. It will be interesting to see if this positive trend will continue&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"> </p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><em><span style="color: #ff9900;">«Même sans espoir, la lutte est encore un espoir»</span></em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Romain Rolland</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong> </strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/2011-and-the-wind-kind-of-shifted-in-ottawa/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>13</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Once and for All!&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/once-and-for-all</link>
		<comments>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/once-and-for-all#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lyne Des Roberts</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[adult education]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language evaluation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language testing tools]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language training]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[bilinguism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning a second language for work]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning french as a second language]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[methods of learning french]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Public Service of Canada second language evaluation tests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[teaching styles]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tests and tribulations]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ladamedragon.com/blog/?p=3981</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I cannot believe my last post was in August!&#8230; It is probably a sign that I was way too busy to write&#8230; indeed I was! Fall brought several contracts with various Departments and, consequently, I am back on the road&#8230; I still have many online students but I have to share them with Angèle because [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">I</span> </strong>cannot believe my last post was in August!&#8230; It is probably a sign that I was way too busy to write&#8230; indeed I was! Fall brought several contracts with various Departments and, consequently, I am back on the road&#8230; I still have many online students but I have to share them with Angèle because I waste quite some time on the road every day!&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">W</span></strong>hat is new in the SLE testing department?&#8230; Not much except that lots of people are being tested all the time. Since most entry level positions now require levels <strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">BBB</span></strong>, more candidates have to be tested at some point in the hiring processes. Of course, the new Reading Comprehension test led to a wave of panic&#8230; before, no one really cared about this test, which was relatively easy&#8230; today, it is a whole different tune&#8230; we also have to prepare our trainees to take that exam&#8230; as if working on the Written Expression and the Oral tests was not enough! Well&#8230; it keeps us busy I guess!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">B</span></strong>efore I start talking about something that has been bugging me for a while now, I would like to let everyone know that Seema finally got her <strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">C</span></strong> in oral after several attempts! I am very happy for her because she had lost her zest lately&#8230; she was craving to go back to work&#8230; after too much time spent into boot camps!</p>
<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;">Congratulations Seema!!!</span></h1>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span id="more-3981"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">M</span></strong>ost of the time, when we are preparing people for their oral exam, we do not encounter resistance because they are ready to do whatever it takes to achieve the level they need. Take Marjorie for instance&#8230; Angèle and I prepared her for the <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>C </strong></span>on a full-time basis in October and, believe me, it was not easy for either one of us. Yet I have to say that Marjorie was a great team player&#8230; I was literally bombarding her with grammar and syntax notions every single day and she always made a point to apply her new skills when practicing with Angèle later in the day. At the end, she could not be more ready to confront her torturer last week&#8230; she had integrated all the notions she needed to make use of during the test and, most of all, she had gained confidence in her abilities tremendously&#8230; Angèle and I know that she performed very well when she went for her interview&#8230; unfortunately, her assessor was the one everybody in town dread to have&#8230; because this &#8220;urban legend&#8221; has the reputation to never give level<span style="color: #ff6600;"> <strong>C</strong></span>&#8230; will Marjorie break the pattern?&#8230; Actually, after more than one week, she still did not hear about her results which is unusual for someone who is a PSC employee&#8230; <strong><em><span style="color: #ff6600;">«À suivre&#8230;»</span></em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">T</span></strong>hat being said, it sometimes happens that some people who are asking for our help are skeptical and refuse to follow our instructions and advice. But, after arguing for a while, most of them realize that we are professionals and we know our job!<em> </em>Yes&#8230; I agree&#8230; our methods are unorthodox and we push people to their limits so that they will give their best during the test&#8230; We put them in a box where there is little (if no) room to move&#8230; Why? Because we know exactly what will be expected from them during the oral interview&#8230; therefore we provide them with the tools, tips and strategies they will need in order to satisfy the assessors and meet the criterias of the level they need to achieve&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">O</span></strong>f course, people who never took a PSC SLE test before or took the test prior to June 2008 are more or less expecting a 45 minute conversation with someone who will arbitrarily decide if they pass their levels or not&#8230; well, it is not that simple. First of all, it is a <strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">TEST</span></strong> and not a casual conversation&#8230; Candidates are expected to demonstrate specific abilities, use specific complex structures and accurate work-related vocabulary&#8230; and rigid criterias have been established for each level&#8230; I have seen many people who were fluent in French fail this test because they had not shown enough of what is needed to achieve a <strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">C </span></strong>for instance&#8230; Yes! it is frustrating and&#8230; Yes! it is ridiculous to some extent&#8230; yet there is nothing we can do in order to change the way this test is conducted. And those who do not want to abide by those rules will probably not get the levels they need&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">A</span></strong> couple of weeks ago, I was a bit frustrated&#8230; and I opened up to Marjorie&#8230; she was in that predicament herself and I wanted to know how she felt about my method&#8230; of course, she agreed that it was a painful process but she also knew that she had no other options, having already missed her <strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">C</span></strong> once&#8230; Then I asked her how I should explain and describe my drastic method and I am quoting her here:</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">I </span></strong>developed a strategy specifically designed to target and address all four elements of the PSC oral expression exam. Rather than focusing on generic language instruction, I focus students on the vocabulary expected from PSC employees in the workplace. The test is not a conversation, it is an exam whereby you must demonstrate specific elements of speech. My philosophy is to situate and prepare students to be comfortable with all four elements of the exam and to prepare them for a successful result at each level. </em></p>
</blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"> <strong>I</strong> </span>think this summarizes the method I use to prepare my trainees to be successful at the oral test. And&#8230; like it or not, it has been proven to be efficient since most of our students obtain the levels they actually need to meet the language requirements of their positions.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">T</span></strong>herefore, for those of you who are looking for help in order to be well prepared for the oral test, please read the above carefully and make sure that you are ready to make the commitment of being put into a box and work on doing exactly what will be expected from you when you will be facing your examiner&#8230; and remember, it is a <strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">TEST</span></strong>&#8230; not a conversation with someone you will ever have a coffee with afterwards&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"> </p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">«La vie, c&#8217;est une boîte d&#8217;instruments qui piquent et coupent. À toute heure nous nous ensanglantons les mains.»</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Alphonse Daudet</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em> </em></p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em> </em></p>
</blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;"> </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/once-and-for-all/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>No words can accurately describe such a stupid process!</title>
		<link>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/no-words-can-accurately-describe-such-a-stupid-process</link>
		<comments>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/no-words-can-accurately-describe-such-a-stupid-process#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lyne Des Roberts</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[languages]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language evaluation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language testing tools]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language training]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[bilinguism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning a second language for work]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning french as a second language]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[professional ethics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Public Service of Canada second language evaluation tests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tests and tribulations]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ladamedragon.com/blog/?p=3882</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Okay&#8230; I will try my best to soften my language here, though I am tempted to be blunt. Am I angry? Indeed&#8230; I am!&#8230; For the mere reason that I do care about my trainees&#8217; fate. Unfortunately I cannot say the same for the majority of language trainers/coaches out there! Hey! more often their students fail [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">O</span></strong>kay&#8230; I will try my best to soften my language here, though I am tempted to be blunt. Am I angry? Indeed&#8230; I am!&#8230; For the mere reason that I do care about my trainees&#8217; fate. Unfortunately I cannot say the same for the majority of language trainers/coaches out there! Hey! more often their students fail to get their required language levels, more work for them!&#8230; Yet, with all the cuts in the Departments&#8217;  language training budgets, I know that some schools are now starving&#8230; they always disdained part-time and short term contracts in favour of extensive contracts&#8230; well, now, they are less picky! Some of them even lowered their hourly rates by up to $10&#8230; but it does not bring them more contracts&#8230; I did not change anything to my own practice and contracts are pouring in&#8230; now, employers are making their choices based upon quality and prices are less of a concern. Lowering rates means lowering  teachers&#8217; salary (which was never high to start with), therefore many language providers&#8217; staff are probably less qualified than before.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>ut I am not here to discuss the fate of the numerous language schools in Ottawa. I am rather interested in the fate of all these people who need to meet the language requirements of their positions and who became the victims of a vicious system.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">O</span></strong>f course, there was the introduction of the new reading comprehension test at the beginning of August&#8230; something that is now making people more miserable than ever&#8230; at least, before, they were able to concentrate their effort on preparing for the written expression and oral tests&#8230; now they also have to try and better their abilities to read (well&#8230; what am I saying here? it is anything but a reading test!) in French&#8230;  Seema who now needs <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">CBC </span></strong>after having achieved her <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">BBB</span></strong> took the test again a couple of weeks ago: she said it was a real nightmare and she did not have enough time to finish the 60 questions&#8230; of course she missed the <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong>&#8230; And, now, even Francophones with an exemption in oral proficiency cannot get their levels in both reading comprehension and written expression in English&#8230; they are now looking for training and most of them write to me in English and their messages are flawless! So&#8230; what should I conclude???&#8230; and do I have to add that there are no samples of the new test to practice with on Campus Direct? Great!!!&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span id="more-3882"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"> <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">W</span></strong>hat bugs me the most right now is that, for over two months now, none of my trainees got a <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong> in oral&#8230; except for the ones who were tested at CRA, Health Canada or over the phone (some people even got exemptions). All those who were tested in person at Slater failed&#8230; and those who achieved a <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong> were tested more than two or three times. Is it a plot of some sort?&#8230; I hate to say this but&#8230; it appears this happened after a floor at Slater was flooded and they had to move their assessors on another floor&#8230; I know&#8230; it is ridiculous&#8230; but I cannot see why so many people are denied their <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong> other than the examiners being frustrated (or truly incompetent)&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">T</span></strong>ake Josie for instance&#8230; born and raised in Montreal, she communicates very well in French and she does not have any English accent when she speaks&#8230; one would think that she is a Francophone from Montreal. Of course she makes some mistakes, but do I have to remind everyone that Francophones also make mistakes when they speak? Well&#8230; she was tested twice and, both times, she missed her <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong>&#8230; I am sorry, but what are they looking for? It is beyond my understanding&#8230; and also beyond any logic&#8230;  On the other hand, they distribute <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>s like candies to even people who can hardly put together a simple sentence with a subject, a verb (non conjugated most of the time) and one object!&#8230; Consequently, Josie who communicates efficiently and someone who only gets by in French end up with the same language profile, yet there is a huge gap between the two! And&#8230; on their feedback sheets, here is what we can read:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>&#8220;Comprehension: You demonstrated an ability to understand linguistically complex questions, speaker viewpoints and conversations about abstract topics.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">W</span></strong>ell&#8230; such a statement is accurate in Josie&#8217;s case&#8230; and I am sorry, but&#8230; someone who can demonstrate such abilities is <strong>NOT</strong> a <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>&#8230; and even a <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong> is not described as bilingual, therefore there should not be such a fuss about abstract topics!&#8230; so&#8230; tell me&#8230; what do they want?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">T</span></strong>he only conclusion I can draw from this non sense is that the PSC needs people to fill in the entry level positions left vacant by the babyboomers leaving massively the workforce&#8230; therefore, they lowered their criterias for the <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> level (otherwise they would not have anyone they could hire) &#8211; in my book, the current <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> level in oral proficiency is the equivalent of an <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">A</span></strong> before all the pointless reforms &#8211; and they raised the criterias for the <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong> level&#8230; bottom line, we now see a flock of people detaining a <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>&#8230; yet their abilities to communicate in the second language are quite different.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">W</span></strong>ell&#8230; <em>«au risque d&#8217;avoir l&#8217;air méchante»</em>, the only thing this test is assessing is the examiners&#8217; inabilities to judge someone&#8217;s abilities to communicate in their second language&#8230; and one question pops up in my mind: who are these judges and what is their background?&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"> </p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><em><span style="color: #ff9900;">«Pour ne point rougir devant sa victime, l&#8217;homme qui a commencé par la blesser, la tue.»</span></em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Honoré de Blazac</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><strong> </strong></span></span></p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/no-words-can-accurately-describe-such-a-stupid-process/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>4</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>April Showers and&#8230; April SLE Testing!</title>
		<link>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/april-showers-and-april-sle-testing</link>
		<comments>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/april-showers-and-april-sle-testing#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lyne Des Roberts</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[extra-curricular activities]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[french culture]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[languages]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language evaluation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language testing tools]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language training]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning a second language for work]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning french as a second language]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Public Service of Canada second language evaluation tests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tests and tribulations]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ladamedragon.com/blog/?p=3796</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Have I been neglecting my blog?&#8230; The answer, unfortunately, is YES!&#8230; These past weeks, I could not find any spare time to write even one line post!&#8230; It is just starting to calm down around here! Both March and April are always hectic months for me&#8230; I guess it is due to the end of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">H</span></strong>ave I been neglecting my blog?&#8230; The answer, unfortunately, is YES!&#8230; These past weeks, I could not find any spare time to write even one line post!&#8230; It is just starting to calm down around here!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>oth March and April are always hectic months for me&#8230; I guess it is due to the end of fiscal in the PSC, as well as the beginning of another fiscal year&#8230; yet, I do not really see the link between so many people being tested for their second language and fiscal years!&#8230; Actually, maybe there is none and it is only coincidental&#8230; Who knows?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">A</span></strong>ll I can say is that there are no breaks in the SLE testing&#8230; I believe it is because most of the entry level job positions now require a minimum of <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">BBB</span></strong> and more and more of them require <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">CBC</span></strong>&#8230; Also, it appears that many Departments cut into their language training budgets, leaving many civil servants in a limbo&#8230; they need to be either tested or re-tested, but they are not offered any paid training to prepare&#8230; I now work with many of them, which was quite unusual a few months ago&#8230; If there is a hiring freeze within the government at this point, there is no testing freeze!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">I</span></strong>n the news department, Mitch got back to me a couple of weeks ago: he finally got his <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> in written expression and we are currently working on his upcoming oral test preparation. He had a hard time with grammar because he never really took any formal French courses&#8230; on the other hand, he is from Montreal and he is more at ease speaking&#8230; therefore it should be easier for him to get his <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> (and possibly a <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong>) in oral interaction.</p>
<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff9900;">Congratulations Mitch!</span></h1>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span id="more-3796"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong>hrissie went for her oral interaction test this morning&#8230; I am impatient to hear from her&#8230; I am convinced she will get her <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>&#8230; <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">S</span></strong>ally, in Vancouver, finally went for her oral interview as well and she got her <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>!&#8230;</p>
<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff9900;">Congratulations Sally!</span></h1>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>onita went for her written expression test yesterday and, unfortunately, she missed her <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> by only two points. She was really disappointed because she had worked very hard&#8230; yet, she was pressured with time and she would have needed a couple of more training sessions&#8230; And, from what she said, she got one of the tough versions of the test&#8230; but, good news, she is not out of the competition!&#8230; Sharon got her <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> in oral although she did not really believe she could make it&#8230; well&#8230; she did!</p>
<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff9900;">Congratulations Sharon!</span></h1>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">F</span></strong>inally, and not the least, Haiyan - who was really nervous during the whole excruciating hiring process (from interviews to tests/exams) &#8211; saw the end of it last Friday&#8230; and she got her <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> in oral as well!</p>
<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff9900;">Congratulations Haiyan!</span></h1>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">S</span></strong>ometimes, I think my job is redundant&#8230; of course, there is not much variety when it comes to SLE tests&#8230; they have been the same forever&#8230; yet, when I see my trainees get their required levels, I am very proud of their achievement and I do forget the repetitive aspect of my work&#8230; And, with <strong><em><span style="color: #ff9900;">Le Club français</span></em></strong>, we can enjoy sporadic outings and forget about the SLE tests for a while&#8230;  Those provide people with the opportunity to use their French outside the fake box they have to enter when they are tested&#8230; and I am always amazed of how good they are at communicating their messages and thoughts&#8230; when often they struggle so much with the tests!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">L</span></strong>ast Friday, we went to the <em>The Higlanders&#8217; Pub</em> where we celebrated three April Birthdays&#8230; We had a great time and it was fun to get out of our lairs after the long winter months&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"> </p>
<div id="attachment_3799" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 410px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-3799" href="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/april-showers-and-april-sle-testing/seema-mark-corey-april-16"><img class="size-full wp-image-3799" title="Seema, Mark &amp; Corey April 16" src="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Seema-Mark-Corey-April-16.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Celebrating Seema, Mark and Corey&#39;s birthdays!</p></div>
<div id="attachment_3800" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 410px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-3800" href="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/april-showers-and-april-sle-testing/alice-seema-and-mark-april-16"><img class="size-full wp-image-3800" title="Alice, Seema and Mark April 16" src="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Alice-Seema-and-Mark-April-16.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="217" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Alice, Seema and Mark shining!</p></div>
<div id="attachment_3801" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 409px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-3801" href="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/april-showers-and-april-sle-testing/corey-mark-and-la-dame-dragon-april-16"><img class="size-full wp-image-3801" title="Corey, Mark and La Dame dragon April 16" src="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Corey-Mark-and-La-Dame-dragon-April-16.jpg" alt="" width="399" height="308" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Corey, Mark and La Dame dragon smiling!</p></div>
<div id="attachment_3802" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 409px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-3802" href="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/april-showers-and-april-sle-testing/corey-la-dame-dragon-and-keely-april-16-2"><img class="size-full wp-image-3802" title="Corey, La Dame dragon and Keely April 16 2" src="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Corey-La-Dame-dragon-and-Keely-April-16-2.jpg" alt="" width="399" height="246" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Corey (who never stopped smiling that evening), La Dame dragon and Keely</p></div>
<div id="attachment_3803" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 410px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-3803" href="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/april-showers-and-april-sle-testing/seema-mark-la-dame-dragon-and-corey-april-16"><img class="size-full wp-image-3803" title="Seema, Mark, La Dame dragon and Corey April 16" src="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Seema-Mark-La-Dame-dragon-and-Corey-April-16.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="215" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">At the end of the evening...</p></div>
<div id="attachment_3804" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 410px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-3804" href="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/april-showers-and-april-sle-testing/mark-and-his-balloon-april-16"><img class="size-full wp-image-3804" title="Mark and his balloon April 16" src="http://ladamedragon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Mark-and-his-balloon-April-16.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="388" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Happy Mark on his 30th Birthday!</p></div>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">&#8220;J&#8217;avance dans l&#8217;hiver à force de printemps&#8221;</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Charles Joseph de Ligne</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/april-showers-and-april-sle-testing/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>4</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Skeptical?&#8230; Of course! How could it be otherwise?&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/skeptical-of-course-how-could-it-be-otherwise</link>
		<comments>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/skeptical-of-course-how-could-it-be-otherwise#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lyne Des Roberts</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[andragogy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[languages]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language evaluation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language testing tools]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[second language training]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning a second language for work]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[learning french as a second language]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[methods of learning french]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Public Service of Canada second language evaluation tests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[teaching]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[teaching styles]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tests and tribulations]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ladamedragon.com/blog/?p=3749</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[It is about time I sit down and write a post!&#8230; Unfortunately, the end of fiscal in the PSC is always a very hectic period for me&#8230; therefore I can hardly find time to do anything else, but prepare candidates for their SLE testing. It is also the end of fiscal for my own business [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">I</span></strong>t is about time I sit down and write a post!&#8230; Unfortunately, the end of fiscal in the PSC is always a very hectic period for me&#8230; therefore I can hardly find time to do anything else, but prepare candidates for their SLE testing. It is also the end of fiscal for my own business and I have to devote time into streneous calculations because, as a good Canadian citizen,  I have to pay my due to the CRA, right?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">S</span></strong>peaking of being a good citizen (and also of being skeptical), I think I will soon quit the <em><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">&#8220;green/beige bins&#8221;</span></strong> </em>daily worshiping although I was willing to participate in the Ottawa Green Program!&#8230; Last weekend I lost patience and I wrote to the City of Ottawa&#8230; and, believe it or not, I was given a case number! My initial complaint was about the brown paper bags that do not fit properly into the beige bin&#8230; to quote my significant other, it takes four hands to keep the bag open and, then, we should probably borrow one of our neighbours&#8217; kid to give us a hand in order to throw kitchen waste in the bag!&#8230; Man! What a time consuming and useless ritual!!!&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">I</span></strong> guess our concerns were taken seriously since we got replies from two people&#8230; one suggested to use old newspapers (who reads papers in 2010?) as lining in the bottom of our designer beige bin and, then throw everything in the green bin&#8230; well, I am sorry but I will not spend one single minute trying to wash those bins that would become filthy in no time! Or&#8230; even better, we could use a cardboard box instead of the beige bin!&#8230; Wait a minute, I do not want a box filled with kitchen waste standing in the middle of my kitchen!&#8230; Bottom line, I think this program is defeating its purpose and, unless the City sits down with the companies designing the brown paper bags so that their products fit the beige bin, I will do what I did for years: I will use a kitchen garbage can and plastic bags! And&#8230; I will sell the beige bin on E-bay!!!&#8230; Des preneurs?&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">I</span></strong> train people in a state-of-the-art virtual classroom and there is nothing one cannot do with high technology&#8230; and some gurus want to take me back to the Dark Age with green programs that, obviously, were not studied from a logistical point of view?&#8230; No thank you!&#8230; I cannot wait for the day my butcher will wrap my ground meat in some old newspapers!&#8230; This non sense circle would be then complete!&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">W</span></strong>hen looking at this, I can see analogies with the whole SLE testing within the PSC&#8230; Both intent and purpose are great yet the process is absurd!&#8230; I will skip my opinion on the tests themselves since, by now, my readers know where I stand. For the past several weeks, I have been contacted by many civil servants who systematically failed at one or two of the language tests after months of either full-time or part-time FSL training through the regular channel&#8230; i.e. through the numerous boot camps contracting with the PSC across the country. Disappointed and fed-up, they were looking for some efficient training that will allow them to get the levels they need to meet their jobs language requirements as quickly as possible.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span id="more-3749"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>I</strong> </span>heard a couple of horrific stories&#8230; for instance, take Shannon&#8230; she has been enrolled in a full-time training program for the past ten months. Useless to say that I am working on de-programming her so that she will be able to get her <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong> when she will be tested orally again next week&#8230; Of course, she lost confidence in her skills: she now has to undo everything she was told to do for the past ten months!&#8230; It is even more discouraging since she sees her regular teacher during the day and me at night or on weekends. As a trainer, if I had students failing at the tests, I would seriously reconsider my approach and correct what is wrong&#8230; but it appears that teachers (who have no background in either pedagogy or andragogy) in private language schools are stubborn and will not budge, stating that there are no other ways&#8230;  Shannon, for months, wanted to use past tenses when summarizing the tapes in Part 2 of the oral interaction test because she thought it sounded weird to do it in a present context (by the way, she was right!)&#8230; her teacher refused to let her do it saying that Part 1 and Part 2 of the exam were assessing <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">A</span></strong> and <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> levels!&#8230; First of all, no one is tested for an <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">A</span></strong> because it is no longer in the equation for imperative bilingual positions. Anyone who have to get a <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong> must demonstrate their skills right from the beginning of the interview!&#8230; According to this teacher, using <strong><em><span style="color: #ff6600;">&#8220;baby talk&#8221;</span></em></strong> (yet with the <strong><em><span style="color: #ff6600;">«</span><span style="color: #ff6600;">sacro-saints mots </span><span style="color: #ff6600;">liens»</span></em></strong>) during the first half of the test and, then, moving to some elaborate ways of speaking for the second half will guarantee a <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong>?&#8230; In your dreams!!!&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">O</span></strong>f course people like Shannon, Deborah, Raymond, Morris and several others ask more questions concerning my method and approach&#8230; And I do not blame them! It is normal that they have trust issues given what they went/go through without positive results. On the other hand, it does not take them long to realize that this time they will be better equipped in order to achieve their required levels.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">W</span></strong>hat I really do not understand is, why the PSC has not yet investigated those language schools programs, their methods and their teachers&#8217; credentials&#8230; Billions of dollars have been/are/will be invested in second language training&#8230; Such inertia is beyond common sense&#8230; and, in the meantime, thousands of people are paying the price for something they do not have control on&#8230; Yet I see more and more  of them taking their destiny into their own hands and invest time and money so that they will be able to return to their jobs as soon as possible! I would not be surprised that, with younger generations now working within the PSC, drastic change could occur sooner than expected&#8230; Only because these people do not have the patience of the baby boomers and they are not as obedient either!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong>ut, in spite of all this, there are success stories&#8230; Danny achieved <span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>ECB</strong> </span>(and he only needed <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">BBB</span></strong>) a couple of weeks ago&#8230;</p>
<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff9900;">Congratulations Danny!</span></h1>
<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff9900;"> </span></h1>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">C</span></strong>hrissie got a comfortable <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> in both reading comprehension and written expression&#8230; she is now working on preparing for her oral interaction test&#8230;</p>
<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff9900;">Congratulations Chrissie!</span></h1>
<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff9900;"> </span></h1>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">S</span></strong>haron got an <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">E</span></strong> in reading comprehension and her required <strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">B</span></strong> in written expression&#8230; we will start preparing her for the oral when she will return from her ten day trip in Europe&#8230;</p>
<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff9900;">Congratulations Sharon!</span></h1>
<p style="text-align: justify;"> </p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">&#8220;Un beau désordre vaut mieux qu&#8217;une inerte ordonnance&#8221;</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Eugène Savitzkaïa</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"> </p>
<p style="text-align: center;"> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ladamedragon.com/blog/skeptical-of-course-how-could-it-be-otherwise/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>7</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>

